Saturday, October 01, 2011

Why worry about Libyan MANPADs ? CIA said TWA 800 was not a missile in its cartoon


A survey of weapon depots in Libya shows that up to 20,000 shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles are now missing, partly because President Barack Obama has refused to send troops to guard the weapons depots, according to a left-of-center advocate.

“We were quite disappointed after talking to administration officials … that nothing more was done, even about the [storage] facilities in Tripoli, which are unsecured now,” said Peter Bouckaert, director of emergencies at left-of-centre group Human Rights Watch...

“If these weapons get into the wrong hands, any civilian aircraft operating in the region will be threatened,” said Bouckaert, who has just returned from a visit to Libya.

The "region" ?


But why worry ? Their ceilings aren't high enough to stage another TWA-800.

Could it be that we are being lied to about the actual models that were stolen ?

The missing missiles are Russian-made SA-7s and SA-16s: Shoulder-launched missiles that can home into the hot exhaust trails from civilian and military jets. The SA-16 is only five feet long and weighs just 24 pounds.

A few of those types of missiles were used by al-Qaida’s allies in Iraq. Al-Qaida’s allies in Yemen have also showcased their possession of a number of the missiles.

In the last few weeks, Bouckaert said, administration officials have met to discuss the threat. “This has moved sharply up on Obama’s agenda,” partly because the administration-backed National Transitional Council can’t guard the weapons depots, he said.

“European intelligence agencies are also very concerned about these missiles, and they’ve been in contact with me,” he added. The European intelligence agencies “have a larger capacity on the ground [in Libya] because they’re not operating under the same restrictions that President Obama has placed himself in,” Bouckaert explained.

Well now. Despite protestations to the contrary and lame videos using blatant repetitve statements to work you over, dozens of witnesses including a Naval crew and a NY Air National guard crew with Major Meyer saw TWA 800 get shot down.


The video contended that what the witnesses saw was “a Boeing 747 in various stages of crippled flight.” Its producers wanted the audience to come away with one understanding. And this was underlined, literally, on screen:

The Eyewitnesses Did Not See a Missile.

The video climaxed with an animation purporting to show what the eyewitnesses did see. As seen in the CIA video, the nose of the aircraft blew off from an internal explosion.

TWA Flight 800 then allegedly “pitched up abruptly and climbed several thousand feet from its last recorded altitude of about 13,800 feet to a maximum altitude of about 17,000 feet." The CIA video claimed that this was what the eyewitnesses had seen--not missiles, but a rocketing, nose-less 747 trailing fire.

The amended suit addresses two startling new discoveries. One is that the CIA generated its zoom-climb calculations after it produced and showed its notorious video. The second is that the NSA originated, and now withholds under FOIA exemptions, a flight-path simulation, apparently the one that was the basis of the CIA's zoom-climb conclusion.


Read the other myriad dozens from Cashill here.


Unable to scrape off the flakes, Stacey cut out two small samples of foam rubber and sent them to Sanders in January 1997. Sanders made arrangements with West Coast Analytical Services, a commercial laboratory in the Los Angeles area, to determine what elements were found in the reddish-orange residue. They proved to be consistent with those found in the exhaust residue of a solid-fuel missile.

By early March 1997, a decision was made to publish a series of newspaper articles describing Sanders' findings. "New Data Show Missile May Have Nailed TWA 800," screamed the one-inch, front-page headline across the top of the Riverside Press-Enterprise on March 10, 1997.

Say, since it "wasn't" a missile, who were those three Arabic speakers in the blue Toyota pickup with New York plates sitting near the putrid dumpster that July day that met another carload at the Old Saybrook McDonald's ? They all looked under the tarp over the bed of the Toyota pick up truck, patted each other on the back, and drove off together. They must have had their baseball card collection in the truck bed hence their "standing guard" as they did it.

How do I know that ?

The way this government conveniently loses or sells such weapons, always leading to a new war to clear them out, and then sells them again as with the recent F-16 order to Iraq, makes it clear that it's all planned, and staged. They haven't even stopped all the attacks there yet, but there's Lockheed with its hand out.

Losing 20,000 MANPADs (and that's what they are though they're hoping you don't notice the link to older news) will no doubt help create new reasons to expend materiel killing those who use them, try or are reported by the government as trying.

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